Out of Control
The Herald reports on the ugly and inexcusable behaviour of a small group of Celtic 'ultras' who brought shame on the club they claim to support at a recent away match in Sunderland which was marred by drunkenness and violence.
I wonder which aspect of the club's rich 'cultural heritage' these clowns thought they were celebrating by behaving in this way - maybe the Green Brigade can throw some light on the subject?
No one can tell these people how to conduct themselves, apparently, which has resulted in the founder of the far-right English Defence League to claim the high moral ground by offering a reward to anyone who helps identify the individuals involved.
I hipe that other decent Celtic fans will do the job for free.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/15447173.Far_Right_group_founder_offers_reward_for_naming_and_shaming_Celtic_fans_caught_chanting_offensive_song_about_murdered_soldier/
Far-Right group founder offers reward for naming and shaming Celtic fans caught chanting offensive song about murdered soldier
By Martin Williams - The Herald
Far-Right group founder offers reward for naming and shaming Celtic fans caught chanting offensive song about murdered soldier
PROMINENT Scots have hit out at the Celtic fans who were caught on camera chanting an offensive song about the death of murdered soldier Lee Rigby.
In footage uploaded on social media Hoops supporters can be seen and heard singing: "F... Lee Rigby, he won't be f...ing drumming anymore. Will he f..."
Tommy Robinson, the English Defence League founder, who was also there wearing a Glasgow Rangers shirt - the arch rivals of Celtic.
He later offered a £1000 reward on social media to "anyone who identifies any of these scum bags"
The clip is believed to have been filmed on Saturday before the match between Celtic and Sunderland at the Stadium of Light.
Before the game there were ugly scenes as rival supporters clashed in street brawls and launched flares leading to 21 arrests by police.
SNP MP James Dornan was one of many who took to Twitter to shame the fans saying: "What is it about some football fans? Celtic should find these guys and ban them for life from Parkhead. Disgusting."
And Scots human rights lawyer Aamer Anwar added: "This is disgusting, shameful and beyond belief - There can be no excuse."
Murder Most Foul (19/12/17)
Here's the best report I've read of trial of the two men charged with the cruel and cowardly murder of Drummer Lee Rigby.
Writing in the Independent, John Hall lays bare some of the ridiculous arguments advanced by a defence lawyer who go as far as to suggest that his client was motivated by a 'noble idea'.
What a complete load of old tosh - and what I can't understand is why the state pays for some of the most expensive lawyers in the land, QCs no less, to spout such nonsense.
I could understand a defence lawyer saying that his client admits to killing someone, but has a misplaced belief that he was entitled to carry out this horrendous act because of his twisted religious and political beliefs - and then sit down.
But all this guff about a 'noble idea' and 'manslaughter' really is an insult to people's intelligence - why else would Adebolajo and Adebowale try to cut off the head of their victim, other than as a vile trophy to be help up as part of a triumphant display?
I read somewhere previously that Adebolajo described his actions as 'merciful' and likened the killing of Drummer Lee Rigby to the Halal tradition of slaughtering animals - by cutting their throats and ensuring a quick death.
Which is sophistry, of course, because human beings are not beasts and Halal does not require practitioners to cut the head off and otherwise disrespect the body of an animal - which is intended solely for human consumption.
So, I am amazed that a member of the legal profession can argue his client did not intend to murder Drummer Lee Rigby by first of all rendering him helpless with a cowardly attack from behind in a motor vehicle.
Noble deed, my arse.
Lee Rigby murder trial: 'Great' Islam is not in trial, jurors told, as judge says nothing in Michael Adebolajo's evidence amounts to a murder charge defence
Prosecutor Richard Whittam says what the men did was 'indefensible in the law of this country'
By JOHN HALL
Jurors in the case of two men accused of murdering soldier Lee Rigby have been told “Islam, one of the world's great religions, is not on trial”.
Muslim converts Michael Adebolajo, 29, and Michael Adebowale, 22, are accused of running Fusilier Rigby down with a car and then hacking him to death with a meat cleaver and knives near Woolwich barracks in south east London on May 22.
Prosecutor Richard Whittam QC told the jury at the Old Bailey what the men did was "indefensible in the law of this country".
But Adebolajo's defending counsel, David Gottlieb, said a proper charge for his client would have been "treason, terrorism, or maybe manslaughter".
Earlier in the day, Mr Justice Sweeney told the jury that nothing said by Adebolajo in his evidence amounts in law to a defence to the charge of murder.
He also told jurors that they were discharged from any further consideration of a count of conspiracy to murder a police officer. Both men deny remaining counts of murder and attempted murder of a police officer.
In his closing speech, Mr Whittam QC said: "It's important that I make it clear - Islam, one of the world's great religions, is not on trial, nor could it be."
Recounting the events of May 22 and the prosecution's case, Mr Whittam showed the jury once again images of bloodied knives, and also replayed the video clip in which Fusilier Rigby is seen being hit by a Vauxhall Tigra.
"What was the consequence of driving into Lee Rigby?" asked Mr Whittam. "The consequence was it broke his back.
He went on: "What was the purpose of what they have done, killing Lee Rigby in the way they had done, in putting the body there and staying at the scene?
"To borrow a phrase from the first defendant - carnage."
Mr Whittam turned to the charge of attempted murder of a police officer and described the defendants' actions when police arrived at the scene.
He told the jury not to be "seduced by suggestions that the sole objective was to commit suicide".
Describing Adebolajo's movements, the prosecutor said: "He had a meat cleaver, a weapon that needed to have direct contact. He raised the weapon above his head and got very close to the vehicle."
Describing Adebowale's movements, he said: "Did he run straight at the vehicle to be caught? He ran along the wall. Why? To draw fire."
Finishing his speech, Mr Whittam said: "What these two men did, crashing their car and breaking the back of Lee Rigby and then killing him is indefensible in the law of this country."
He went on: "Killing to make a political point, to frighten the public, to put pressure on the Government or as an expression of anger is murder and remains murder whether the government in question is a good one, a bad one or a dreadful one."
In his closing speech, Mr Gottlieb said: "All deaths outside of lawful deaths are cruel, needless and unnecessary.
"Do you think really that this is the cruellest, most sadistic, most callous, most cowardly killing that's ever occured in our nation's history? It isn't."
Mr Gottlieb asked the jury to consider whether the prosecution had put their case on the basis that it was "cowardly and callous" to "enflame" or "distract" them from the view that the death "must be murder and nothing else".
He told jurors the proper charge for Adebolajo would have been "treason, terrorism, or maybe manslaughter".
Earlier, Mr Gottlieb quoted from a poem by First World War poet Edmund Blunden, called Report On Experience, and told the jury that religion had been a "red herring" in the case.
The defending barrister also suggested that Adebolajo was "the most law- abiding terrorist in the history of this country" as his client paid for a parking ticket moments before the alleged murder took place.
Mr Gottlieb later explained that he was using a "Sherlock Holmes" approach, adding: "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."
Mr Gottlieb told the jury that they "genuinely have a choice" to acquit his client, and that they will be under pressure "from outside, from the mob, from the world, to convict". He said that the prosecution case "lacks any sense of proportion or of ridiculousness".
Turning to the attempted murder charge, he said it is "possibly the most ridiculous charge ever put before a judge and jury in the history of this country".
He claimed that the prosecution has no satisfactory explanation as to why Adebolajo told a witness to stay back "when the police and the soldiers get here".
The jurors were then played part of the film clip of Adebolajo with bloodied hands, but with no sound.
Mr Gottlieb said that a woman who walked past him as he spoke was clearly not afraid of him.
He said there were unarmed police near the scene, but Adebolajo chose to wait for armed teams, which would not fit with an intention to kill an officer.
The barrister went on to tell the panel of eight women and four men that the issue of what motivated Adebolajo "raises awkward questions" for the UK's political leaders.
He said: "A person, a human being, can do the most evil act in the world and not actually be evil themselves."
The prosecution could not accept that Adebolajo may have been motivated by "a noble idea", and he had attacked "a symbol of the state", Mr Gottlieb said.
Jurors in the case of two men accused of murdering soldier Lee Rigby have been told “Islam, one of the world's great religions, is not on trial”.
Muslim converts Michael Adebolajo, 29, and Michael Adebowale, 22, are accused of running Fusilier Rigby down with a car and then hacking him to death with a meat cleaver and knives near Woolwich barracks in south east London on May 22.
Prosecutor Richard Whittam QC told the jury at the Old Bailey what the men did was "indefensible in the law of this country".
But Adebolajo's defending counsel, David Gottlieb, said a proper charge for his client would have been "treason, terrorism, or maybe manslaughter".
Earlier in the day, Mr Justice Sweeney told the jury that nothing said by Adebolajo in his evidence amounts in law to a defence to the charge of murder.
He also told jurors that they were discharged from any further consideration of a count of conspiracy to murder a police officer. Both men deny remaining counts of murder and attempted murder of a police officer.
In his closing speech, Mr Whittam QC said: "It's important that I make it clear - Islam, one of the world's great religions, is not on trial, nor could it be."
Recounting the events of May 22 and the prosecution's case, Mr Whittam showed the jury once again images of bloodied knives, and also replayed the video clip in which Fusilier Rigby is seen being hit by a Vauxhall Tigra.
"What was the consequence of driving into Lee Rigby?" asked Mr Whittam. "The consequence was it broke his back.
He went on: "What was the purpose of what they have done, killing Lee Rigby in the way they had done, in putting the body there and staying at the scene?
"To borrow a phrase from the first defendant - carnage."
Mr Whittam turned to the charge of attempted murder of a police officer and described the defendants' actions when police arrived at the scene.
He told the jury not to be "seduced by suggestions that the sole objective was to commit suicide".
Describing Adebolajo's movements, the prosecutor said: "He had a meat cleaver, a weapon that needed to have direct contact. He raised the weapon above his head and got very close to the vehicle."
Describing Adebowale's movements, he said: "Did he run straight at the vehicle to be caught? He ran along the wall. Why? To draw fire."
Finishing his speech, Mr Whittam said: "What these two men did, crashing their car and breaking the back of Lee Rigby and then killing him is indefensible in the law of this country."
He went on: "Killing to make a political point, to frighten the public, to put pressure on the Government or as an expression of anger is murder and remains murder whether the government in question is a good one, a bad one or a dreadful one."
In his closing speech, Mr Gottlieb said: "All deaths outside of lawful deaths are cruel, needless and unnecessary.
"Do you think really that this is the cruellest, most sadistic, most callous, most cowardly killing that's ever occured in our nation's history? It isn't."
Mr Gottlieb asked the jury to consider whether the prosecution had put their case on the basis that it was "cowardly and callous" to "enflame" or "distract" them from the view that the death "must be murder and nothing else".
He told jurors the proper charge for Adebolajo would have been "treason, terrorism, or maybe manslaughter".
Earlier, Mr Gottlieb quoted from a poem by First World War poet Edmund Blunden, called Report On Experience, and told the jury that religion had been a "red herring" in the case.
The defending barrister also suggested that Adebolajo was "the most law- abiding terrorist in the history of this country" as his client paid for a parking ticket moments before the alleged murder took place.
Mr Gottlieb later explained that he was using a "Sherlock Holmes" approach, adding: "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."
Mr Gottlieb told the jury that they "genuinely have a choice" to acquit his client, and that they will be under pressure "from outside, from the mob, from the world, to convict". He said that the prosecution case "lacks any sense of proportion or of ridiculousness".
Turning to the attempted murder charge, he said it is "possibly the most ridiculous charge ever put before a judge and jury in the history of this country".
He claimed that the prosecution has no satisfactory explanation as to why Adebolajo told a witness to stay back "when the police and the soldiers get here".
The jurors were then played part of the film clip of Adebolajo with bloodied hands, but with no sound.
Mr Gottlieb said that a woman who walked past him as he spoke was clearly not afraid of him.
He said there were unarmed police near the scene, but Adebolajo chose to wait for armed teams, which would not fit with an intention to kill an officer.
The barrister went on to tell the panel of eight women and four men that the issue of what motivated Adebolajo "raises awkward questions" for the UK's political leaders.
He said: "A person, a human being, can do the most evil act in the world and not actually be evil themselves."
The prosecution could not accept that Adebolajo may have been motivated by "a noble idea", and he had attacked "a symbol of the state", Mr Gottlieb said.
